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investment.

Hope for the decimated Florida citrus industry and commodity market analysis with Don Rose.

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>> If you pause long enough outdoors, you're likely to hear a hammer at a construction site.

New home sales hit a three year high last month.

Builders are adding incentives to move units in the volatile sector of the economy.

The order for durable goods was also up in August.

New orders for items meant to last three years or more expanded 2.9% on a surge in aircraft orders Higher prices are attributed to the gains rather than added orders.

The government's preferred inflation measure, the PCE, put on 2.9% last month.

In the year over year section of the report.

The core PCE index, which strips out food and gas, increased 2/10 of a percent.

A study of CFOs by Duke University and two regional Federal Reserve branches reveals one third of price growth this year for companies was attributable to tariffs, as consumers pay more for coffee, paper plates and beer.

Another round of hikes is likely coming with other products.

The president announced new tariffs for branded pharmaceuticals, kitchen cabinets, upholstered furniture and heavy trucks made elsewhere.

This week has also been a real time example of what happens when duties are dropped and the impact on buyers and other potential sellers of one big American crop.

David Miller reports.

>> After the meeting in Arkansas earlier this month, government officials and policy pundits have been trying to figure out what to do next.

One of the biggest questions for row crop farmers is when will the Chinese step back into the U.S.

market and buy a large portion of a predicted record large crop of soybeans?

South America is still filling orders at a time when U.S.

output should be on China's books.

This week, the U.S.

extended a line of credit to Argentina to help them with its struggling economy.

At the same time, the Argentine government dropped its export taxes in just two days, $7 billion worth of Argentinean beans were purchased by China.

Ignoring the U.S.

stocks already for sale.

Iowa State University economist Chad Hart thinks Argentine government officials from different departments weren't talking to each other while a deal was being hashed out with the U.S.

>> In a certain sense, it makes sense for Argentina because they were searching for any way to help themselves out financially.

But yeah, it just sort of comes as a sort of double whammy for us, because what it did was, you know, here we are getting ready to provide support for them, and then they make this move that definitely damages our ability to deal with the largest problem we got, arguably in trade.

>> This week, President Trump met with the president of Argentina at the United Nations, pledging support for their country and economy.

Hours later, Trump announced financial assistance for U.S.

farmers.

>> Then we're going to take some of that tariff money that we made.

We're going to give it to our farmers who are, for a little while, going to be hurt until it kicks in.

The tariffs kick in to their benefit.

So we're going to make sure that our farmers are in great shape, because we're taking in a lot of money.

>> The Argentinians have since put the export taxes back in place after China bought the dip.

American Soybean Association President Caleb Ragland demanded action in a statement.

He said U.S.

farmers cannot wait and hope any longer.

ASA is calling on President Trump and his negotiating team to prioritize securing an immediate deal on soybeans with China.

The farm economy is suffering while our competitors supplant the United States in the biggest soybean import market in the world Hart thinks the Chinese will be back for U.S.

soybeans in the next six months.

>> I'm watching to see just how big this crop will be at harvest.

I do think we might see a little more slippage as we're looking at yield and production.

As we go through the fall.

That product will need to move and eventually will set the price to get it to move.

So that means that we will discount our price to move the product along, because we don't want it to spoil and capture no value from it.

It's better to make a sale at $8 a bushel than it is to watch it spoiling at $0 a bushel for it.

>> For market to market.

I'm David Miller.

>> Florida's citrus producers have been battling a plant bacteria that has wiped out the majority of its citrus production.

But scientists are now offering a glimmer of hope to the Sunshine State.

Colleen Bradford Krantz reports in our cover story.

>> Ron English had spent 35 years as production manager at his family's Florida citrus business when the state was hit by citrus greening, a disease that has ravaged Florida's iconic orange and grapefruit industry About 2015, we decided that greening had heard us enough to where we the quality of the fruit wasn't there, and it when it hit us, it hit us hard.

>> It didn't gradually go out.

It all that we did to try to what we knew to do to keep the trees alive didn't work.

So we made a decision just to shut our operation down.

My father in law and our family had been in since 1895.

>> Life changing decisions like this one have become common across Florida since citrus greening, also referred to as HLB, emerged in 2005.

Since that time, producers in the state have lost 63% of their citrus bearing acres, while some owners of those 429,000 acres of former groves switched to other forms of agriculture or kept the land, others sold to developers.

>> We were able to sell something we didn't want to do, where we once have groves, there subdivisions, strip centers, malls.

>> Citrus greening caused by a bacteria spread by the tiny non-native Asian citrus psyllid, destroys orange, grapefruit, tangerine and other citrus trees.

English recently saw a 1950s ad showing children drinking Florida orange juice.

It reminded him how long Americans have associated Florida with oranges.

Now, the state's orange production has plummeted 90% from nearly 150,000,090 pound boxes in 2005 to 15.8 million boxes in 2023.

The lowest annual production since the 1930s.

But English has found himself back in an orange grove, feeling hopeful He oversees a test grove for a company called soil Sia, which has licensed the rights to further develop and commercialize precision bred citrus trees from the University of Florida plant biologist Nian Huang and university colleagues used Crispr technology, a genome editing tool, to develop trees that can still survive and produce fruit despite exposure to the devastating bacteria.

The trees contain no foreign DNA from other plants or animals.

If successful, these genetically edited trees and rootstock could revive citrus production in Florida and save it elsewhere.

>> This problem is not only Florida problem, it's worldwide problem.

In all the major production area in Asia.

In Brazil, in in in United States.

We all have the same problem.

>> About 50 miles from Wong's Central Florida labs soil Sears Tampa area facility houses a dozen employees who are rapidly refining the most promising genetic edits.

Early results have been positive, with the first priority on Valencia and Hamlin orange varieties and an edited rootstock for grafting.

>> What we're doing is finding the specific genes that are susceptible to hlv and using Crispr precision breeding the turn off this interaction, and this occurs all the time in nature.

And we have a tree that we're saying is showing early hlv resistance.

We hope it's going to last for a lot longer, but we only have trees that have been in the field for a couple of years.

Every six months we retest them, right to see if the bacteria is growing in the tree and what's going on.

And every six months we're getting more and more confident.

>> Lagos and his colleagues are also working on citrus greening, resistant grapefruit and mandarin oranges.

>> We have to screen lots and lots of plants and different combinations of different Crispr edits to see what plant, you know has the desired edit and which one has the desired, you know, traits of resistance that we're hoping for.

We spend a lot of time.

These plants take six months to a year to get to the stage where they're in soil.

So we have to be very thorough in screening so that all the effort we're devoting for it isn't a waste.

>> In the past decade, Floridians have tried one possible solution after another, from spraying to kill the insects to tenting the young trees to protect them All either failed or required costly repeated treatments.

>> We do feel the pressure They they get it.

The growers quickly because, I mean, they're really struggling, right?

It's really I mean, it's a real testament to the growers that they've stayed in this industry.

Even with citrus greening.

>> And now they may be close.

>> How do you know they're disease resistant?

Well, you got to put it into the field, right?

You have to expose it to the psyllid.

You have to expose it to the disease.

>> So far, researchers say the trees that result from precision breeding look much healthier than the control trees.

>> Different gene targets are showing tolerance where the plant actually still gets infected.

But it's a big, beautiful tree compared to the controls.

We're seeing others where the the amount of bacteria in the plant is so low or almost undetectable compared to the controls.

>> All that work in University of Florida and soil CIA labs and greenhouses may finally bear fruit.

Literally.

They hope.

But it takes almost half a decade before citrus trees produce significant amounts of fruit, after which traits such as taste and yield will need to be evaluated.

>> If everything goes well, I think we'd be looking at the end of 2026 or maybe spring of 2027, where we kind of get those first commercial trees out there, but they're going to still have to plant these trees in numbers, and it's going to take four, five years, even, you know, even maybe a little longer before it's at full production.

So the really start bringing the industry back.

It's going to take some time As for Ron English, he is once again optimistic that his grandchildren might someday have the opportunity to get the family back into the citrus business.

>> This what we're doing is the key to getting back.

And once we can get people started and start planting, I think they'll it'll catch on.

>> For market to market.

I'm Colleen Bradford Krantz.

>> Next the market to market report.

>> The grain belt harvest hits full stride while positions firm ahead of next week's government reports.

And corn export sales set a record for the week.

The nearby wheat contract lost $0.03 and the December corn contract fell by $0.02.

The lack of export demand kept a lid on the soy complex.

The November soybean contract sold off $0.12, while December meal declined nine.

40 per ton.

December.

Cotton was even over in the dairy parlor.

November class three milk futures shed $0.28.

The livestock market was mixed.

December Cattle cut $1.43.

November Feeders put on $3.55 and the December lean hog.

Contract improved by three.

42.

In the currency markets, U.S.

Dollar Index was up 60 ticks.

November.

Crude oil found 303 per barrel.

Comex gold added 93.

90 per ounce.

And the Goldman Sachs Commodity Index was higher by more than 12 points to settle at 560 105.

Joining us now, regular market analyst Don Rose.

Hello, Don.

>> Glad to be back, Paul.

>> Don, this wheat market was this was price action more attributable to support to corn or this Russia Ukraine story that kind of keeps hanging around.

>> Well, you know, the wheat market again you know, did have a key reversal again on Tuesday.

That's often a sign of a major low or major intermediate low.

It hasn't stuck, but it has given us support, you know, down around 507.

We can't get over 550.

But I think the bottom line is, you know, we bounced a little bit when the Russia Ukraine rhetoric on the war popped up again.

You know, remember we shot up big when Russia invaded Ukraine.

So I think a little bit of war premium in.

But I think the wheat actually drugged the corn market down.

But Russia continues to sell wheat aggressively for money for the war.

The new crop is bigger.

Australia's crop is coming at us.

Argentina's crop is coming at us all bigger.

So I think we're looking to North America to see if we have the weather problem in the spring.

>> So everything you just said, Don, sounds a lot more fundamental than technical, but you started with a technical story.

Technically, this.

Are you hearing people are selling at this point because of what technically is happening?

Because what you just said fundamentally would scare me.

>> Yeah.

Fundamentally it's negative.

But I think you reach a level where you have fair market value.

And I think that's what the wheat market is.

Well, it can't really go down a lot.

Hasn't really for a few months.

But when you rally, the end users aren't spooked.

Get up there.

But the funds are short.

About 90,000 wheat.

And so I think that's a little bit scary if they ever come out of those shorts.

But they need to be spooked by something.

Paul.

>> Let's talk corn because the export sales sets this record that has been, I would imagine, the biggest support for what is supposed to be this large crop on top of a large carryout from before.

>> Yeah.

Most definitely.

I mean, our export pace, our demand base has been very strong.

But then you look at it, our neighbor is the one that's bought about a third of our exports on corn.

So big exports.

But it's from our neighbor Argentina is selling corn.

We've got a lot of competition.

So I think the biggest supportive thing on the corn market is the fact that the producer shed the old crop supplies, but at this price level, Paul, it really doesn't work for a lot of people and no interest in selling corn at harvest.

At these prices.

That's what we're seeing.

>> Do you get the sense that when you mention harvest that we have maybe seen that harvest low even before we start harvest?

>> Well, I tell you, we might be very similar to last year.

Remember, we put our biggest yield in August.

Doesn't that sound similar?

That's what we've done so far this year.

And then what happened is the yield constantly got lower until we hit the January report.

It looks like so far from what we're picking up across the gut side of the corn Belt, the corn yield just isn't there.

In fact, it's down like 1030 bushels versus a year ago.

So look for that to ratchet down.

Carryouts probably go down.

But the demand also the government has it very lofty.

Paul.

>> Well, so then what what do you anticipate then, ahead of the report next week?

>> Well, yeah, we've got the stocks position report next Tuesday.

So the government is going to tell us where what do we have for stocks in the U.S.

So you know it looks like that one usually isn't a big mover.

But if anything it maybe could be a little bit bigger on corn, a little bit smaller on soybeans.

Don't look for that to be a market mover.

I think it's really what is the real yield coming off the combine test weights are poor you know.

So that's one.

We do have big carries in the corn market which is to the producer advantage.

>> But do you get the sense that you the market has to really truly see that the test weights aren't good and the yields are not as good before we see some type of action higher?

>> Well, I think what we really need to do is the end user says, you know, at this price level, I don't think it's going down a lot.

And they start to cover.

So I think that's the number one thing.

And like we said in wheat, the funds are short about 100,000 contracts of corn.

So you need a catalyst to move them out of that.

It's more than likely this time of year.

It's the yield going down.

You know, usually we go down into harvest in a countercyclical yield.

If the year isn't there, yield isn't there.

You go up into harvest.

So let's see.

>> Let's talk about kind of that elephant in the room Argentina.

You mentioned it already with a little bit of corn.

The story though impacted the bean market.

Is that move and reaction to Argentina dropping of the taxes China come in and buying.

Has that been overplayed.

>> Well if you look at it we had a huge whipsaw.

Here's what happened the beginning of the week Monday Argentina took the tax off of their corn soybeans 24% on corn, 26 on beans.

That made Argentines farmer soybeans $3 higher a bushel, corn $0.50 a bushel.

They sold it.

The world market press lower on soybeans in China bought like 150 million bushels of soybeans from Argentina.

So I think the bottom line is, when you look at that, Paul, we had a lot of negative news this week.

Soybeans didn't go down.

I always say it's more important how you react to the news than the news.

>> But the news wasn't exactly friendly, which to me, doesn't it seem that a continued adding a layer of layer of news?

We haven't even gotten to the C word yet.

We'll get to that in a minute.

Are we coming back?

Is anybody coming back to buy the U.S.

beans anytime soon?

>> Well, remember, we probably have lost China.

Our biggest buyer bought 54% of our exports last year, 800 and some million bushels.

They bought zero so far this year.

Usually they bought like 400 million bushels by now.

So ask yourself, how much did we lose?

But if you look at it in the world perspective, Paul, I think you're shuffling some of these around.

We lost big to China, but I think we'll pick up others.

Soybean demand.

But is it enough?

That's the question.

Because something in the world, it's a world market.

And that's what we're looking at.

>> And that's a couple of questions we'll get to in Market Plus.

And as we look at the January soybean contract looks very, very similar to that November 1st, 1033 is where we finished.

But I want to go to Dan in Nebraska's question, and it is about China.

And Dan wants to know, are we at the new norm for sales to China?

And and if that's the case, what do we do now?

>> Well, we're pushing more demand over to Brazil all the time.

I mean, that's what's happened with this tariff situation.

And maybe other countries with big tariffs.

I think our growth area, you know, much like what happened to corn, our growth area was ethanol, our growth area and soybeans no doubt is the biofuel industry.

And I think that's where we're going.

Brazil acres are going to be up almost 4% again this year.

I mean, they continue to expand all the time.

You know, when I first got into this business, they were basically non-existent as far as production.

Now Brazil alone produced this year they're going to produce, let's just say, 6.3 billion bushels.

We're going to produce 4.3 billion.

So they're the big elephant in the room.

We continue to lose every year as far as production.

>> We got a lot of elephants in this room.

You've dropped one I've dropped one.

okay.

Let me see if I got this right.

Corn and beans.

You're not hearing of anybody picking up the phone to make sales right now.

>> I think if there's going to be sales, it's going to come more from the soybeans.

But nobody really wants to sell at these price levels, Paul.

And if they do, they want to reown it somehow.

>> Do they want to sell live cattle right now?

>> Well, the cattle market this week was iffy when we were down 3 to $5 a hundred weight on cattle.

The cattle numbers aren't there.

They're not going to be there.

We're an expansion phase.

The government sent some signals out that they're going to do some stuff with CRP and maybe some other things, but it's the demand side of the market.

Paul.

You know, that's the big thing.

You tell me.

We're down basically 2% on cattle really this next year from a production, but we're 25% higher as far as price.

So it's the consumer that's kind of pushed things up here.

Packers losing about $200 a head to go home at night.

Cash market is under pressure.

Box beef is down $45 in just short order.

That's 11%.

So something's going to give soon.

But Packer the break even by the feedlot.

Very lofty.

235 240 whoever would have thought.

>> Well, who would have thought these prices, period.

Do you get the sense that you mentioned Packer margins?

There is a question that I think we'll get to in plus about Packer margins.

Do you how much interest is there in buying and how heavy are these animals?

I mean, that's the that's the big concern too.

>> That you hit the nail on the head, Paul, because what we're running into is feedlot after feedlot feeders are so high that what they're doing is they're putting on extra pounds.

I mean, we've had feedlots tell us they're going to put on another 100 to 200 pounds versus what their normal are.

That's a lot.

This last week we put on about 15 pounds over a year ago.

That's about 10,000 head a week.

So that's what's happening part of it.

But you know you talk about we were talking about the cow calf business and also from an expansion standpoint, the cow calf people are looking at it from a tax standpoint.

We're running into more people holding heifers back.

Just from a tax standpoint.

>> Because that way they and why.

>> They don't have to pay taxes on it, they push them ahead.

You know.

So maybe that's a helpful thing.

That's true capitalistic thing.

We'll see.

>> Well, the secretary of AG was in Kansas City this week talked about, you know, you kind of mentioned maybe no government support coming.

I mean, is there going to be much appetite to help the or need to help the the livestock industry right now given the prices we've.

>> Well, you know, the cow calf guy is fine.

You know he's the biggest margins we've had.

But it's the, you know, the feedlots.

Sure you can make big money on 1 or 2 turns of cattle, but then you're breakevens change and, you know, there's a lot of risk on the table.

And that's what the government said.

They're looking at CRP programs and helping out on some subsidies for some of these insurance products.

>> And the question we always ask is, it sounds like what you talked about, corn and beans and wheat, is this an opportunity to fill some feed needs?

Then?

>> Well, I think from a from a cattle standpoint.

I mean, if the At harvest is usually a good time to cover your needs.

So there's no doubt we've got feedlots that are pretty well covered on feed needs just because there's too much risk.

If it goes up.

I mean maybe it goes down 20 or $0.30.

Not a big deal.

>> Hogs and pigs report hog inventory down at 1% this week.

What's that tell you.

>> That's a bullish report I mean it's one of the most bullish reports I've seen for a long time.

Paul, if you put it in perspective, our farrowing for the summer 30 year low, our breeding herd down to 11 year low.

So I mean these are just bullish numbers.

I think the surprise was we pushed up to resistance, made some new contract highs but not wildly.

And I think that's part of it.

Just says that maybe we think that it's going to start our farrowing were at 100%.

So maybe 103 105 is good for now.

On the hogs.

>> Do you see the.

summer months?

Do you see this lasting a long time?

>> Well, you know, we build up hogs faster than we do cattle.

So I think that's the one thing I think if the if the hog industry has some profits, I think they'll start to build the herd.

We haven't seen that yet, but I think that could be the next move.

>> You know what my next move is to say thank you.

>> Thank you Paul.

>> Good to see you, Don.

Thank you.

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